I'mPhosphorescent
Dec 9 2007, 09:04 PM
If anyone needs it, let me know. I'd be happy to assist.
great_pretender
Dec 9 2007, 09:33 PM
@ greenismyfavcolor:
You've heard Lucy's acting isn't great? All I can say about this is: Lucy's acting might be not great for people who think of Glinda being some freaky blonde girl, always making stupid jokes and so on... Lucy isn't a kind of Glinda you would call freaky or whatsoever. Lucy is a kind of Glinda who pretends being stupid but isn't at all - at least, that's what I think. Lucy is a kind of Glinda who doesn't scream all of the time and she is not one of them who want to make jokes all of the time. BUT Lucy is frigging funny, although she doesn't want to do jokes all of the time.
I'm always like: Okay, there are two different Glindas. The first is the traditional, like Cheno and JLT. This Glinda is like the chary one and pretends being stupid (because we know: Life's more painless for the brainless) - but isn't at all. And then there is the other Glinda, I'd call it the freaky and extreme funny one, like Megan and Kendra. This Glinda is more like being funny and making jokes all of the time.
What kind of Glinda I like also has to do with: Do/can I take to the actress?
I prefer the pretending Glinda, I like Lucys sense of humour and I can take to her, because she really is one of the nicest musical theatre actresses I've ever met.
Recapitulatory: It always has to do with the view you take on Glinda and also if you can take to the actress who's playing/singing Glinda.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: I love her voice. =)
Jogibear
Dec 9 2007, 09:39 PM
IMHO Lucy is a great mixture of Cheno and Megan. My personal dream Glinda.
greenismyfavcolor
Dec 9 2007, 10:30 PM
The complaint I heard about her wasn't about the humor, it was that her Act II Glinda isn't believable and that she doesn't make her very likable.
I have no idea if this is true--it could just be those people's personal opinions. (just like the people who just happen to hate Cheno or Annaleigh or Megan, etc)
I really do like Lucy's singing. It's like JLT, Cheno, and Megan crammed into one awesome voice.
I am listening to the cast recording now...The only problem I have with it is Michael Guenther as Dr. Dillamond (Doktor Dillamonth) and Something Bad in general. I never liked that song anyway.
great_pretender
Dec 9 2007, 10:56 PM
QUOTE(greenismyfavcolor @ Dec 9 2007, 11:30 PM)

The complaint I heard about her wasn't about the humor, it was that her Act II Glinda isn't believable and that she doesn't make her very likable.
Ah, okay. I like her Act II Glinda - because she reacts humanly, as everyone else would do in case of such situation. And because she acts humanly, I like her.
greenismyfavcolor
Dec 9 2007, 10:57 PM
Another point that could be made is that it's still very early into the run, and she might need a little time to see what works in Act II, if it is indeed 'unbelivable.' A lot of Glindas have taken awhile to find what works with an audience.
Akane
Dec 10 2007, 09:40 PM
I've listened to the CD now over and over again and I still don't really like it. I can't say why exactly, it's partly the lyrics (I'm too used to the English ones, the German translation sometimes just sounds... not right... Moq/Ein seelenvoller Mann... argh!!), partly the voices. I saw Jana Stelley as G(a)linda and I definitely liked her more than Lucy (I haven't seen Lucy live, but anyway) and I always think of Jana singing. Willemijn is great as Elphaba, but anyway... I prefer listening to the Broadway Cast Recording.
greenismyfavcolor
Dec 11 2007, 03:53 AM
After listening to it for quite awile, I have to agree. They should definitely had redone the orchestration. It was very out of sync, parts of every song and a lot of the dialogue.
And it would have been awesome to get a more recent version of NGD. (With the heavier guitar)
SB and SM still irk me...in a different language.
Jogibear
Dec 11 2007, 10:25 AM
I like the German Cast Recording, although it's pity, that they used the old orchestrations. But the Voices of the German Cast correct this deficit IMHO.
To be honest, I like the GCR more than the OBC-Recording, cause IMHO the OBC-Recording has a very steril effect, the voices sound too linear, emotions don't come up. Completely different IHMO the GCR, the voices are lively and a lot of emotions come up. So "Was fühle ich in mir"/"What ist this feeling" really has a "loathing"-effect, not so in OBC. During "Ich bin es nicht"/"I'm not that girl" I had to cry, not so on OBC. And "Gutes Tun"/"No good deed" makes goosebumbs. Lucy and Willemijn simply are great. And last but not least, Idina IMHO sings with such a "I-Don't-Feel-Like-It"-Voice on OBC-Recording not so Willemijn on the GCR.
witchy woman
Dec 11 2007, 12:23 PM
QUOTE(Catalys @ Dec 8 2007, 10:54 PM)

Does the booklet include all the lyrics?
yes it does - some minor mistakes are in there but 99% are correct
Elphaba79
Dec 11 2007, 01:02 PM
QUOTE(Jogibear @ Dec 11 2007, 03:25 AM)

And last but not least, Idina IMHO sings with such a "I-Don't-Feel-Like-It"-Voice on OBC-Recording not so Willemijn on the GCR.
I don’t have the GCR so I can’t compare, but I disagree about Idina. I listened to the OBC non-stop for months and it’s what made me fall in love with Wicked in the first place. Listening to DG, or For Good, or NGD gave me goosebumps often enough. I think Idina’s voice was more impressing live than on the OBC, but I still like her performance on the CD.
greenismyfavcolor
Dec 11 2007, 04:39 PM
QUOTE
To be honest, I like the GCR more than the OBC-Recording, cause IMHO the OBC-Recording has a very steril effect, the voices sound too linear, emotions don't come up. Completely different IHMO the GCR, the voices are lively and a lot of emotions come up. So "Was fühle ich in mir"/"What ist this feeling" really has a "loathing"-effect, not so in OBC. During "Ich bin es nicht"/"I'm not that girl" I had to cry, not so on OBC. And "Gutes Tun"/"No good deed" makes goosebumbs. Lucy and Willemijn simply are great. And last but not least, Idina IMHO sings with such a "I-Don't-Feel-Like-It"-Voice on OBC-Recording not so Willemijn on the GCR.
Really? I feel the opposite. It's not just it being in a different language. It's just not very emotional to me. It's probably less "lively" than the OBCR or at least as "emotional.
staticoranges
Dec 12 2007, 06:09 AM
Would anybody who has it like to happy share with me?

PM me.
DearOldShiz
Dec 12 2007, 06:15 AM
From what I've heard, I prefer Willemijn to Idina. I think she brings so much truth to the character...and I can't even speak German!
And @ Jogibear - I've felt the same way about the OBCR for a while. After seeing it live, it just doesn't quite capture the awesome quality of the show. There's just something wrong with the way they mixed the final version.
Not to mention I'd love to have that drumroll in DG!
bobert5353
Dec 13 2007, 01:06 AM
Willemijn is absolutely amazing and sounds perfect on this CD. And I agree with everyone about disappointed with the orchestrations.
And please stop just posting to have the CR sent to you for free. Do the right thing and purchase it, you did so with the OBCR I hope.
defyinggravitywithshobean
Dec 13 2007, 05:07 AM
I liked the german cast recording clearly the quality of recording has improved over 4 years the orchestrations are the same but the mixing has been adjusted to sound better which is reflective...the ensemble is incredible sounding ...the added echo to the recording gives a more lively feel...I personally cant wait for an anniversary cd with a special cast and huge orchestra with the newer orchestrations......especially the added drum rolls.....french horns during dg....electric guitar solos....also i dont know what it is the difference with the obc but the cast and orchestra sound very direct soundboard like..and the bway ensemble was great....i think the harmonies work better sometimes in german lol....i still have yet to hear the wow factor in dg ...as much as i love weij....i cant remember lol....idina still gives that wow factor especially the flying segment in dg......the da ta da ta da ...so if you care to find me....that part is amazing on the obc....look forward to a REALLY new soundtrack pref english so i can understand lol...but maybe a movie!!!!!!!....or symphonic recording...we will see
degeorgetitanic
Dec 13 2007, 05:29 PM
actually I dont think Idina sounds bored on the CD. I think WE are just getting bored of the CD. When I first got it I listened to it alot and i was amazed that the power and intensity but now im like "UGh! This sounds WAY To familiar" but then my friend listened to it and feel in love with it and WICKED and he HATES musicals so thats saying alot. He said "The CD is filled with anger and happiness and all the emotions" lol but I agree, The OGC is AMAZING. And does it have 19 tracks? I only listend to teh samples
Wicked Witch of the West
Dec 13 2007, 06:13 PM
Willemijn fits Elphaba perfectly. While I don't understand German, it's her sound, power, and vocal quality that makes it worth for non-Germans to but. How it amounts to $128, I'll never know. Although, the orchestrations are the same, it's still an incredible recording.
Sound Clips:
http://www.stage-entertainment.de/musicals...udio-video.html(they're at the bottom: OSD, FG, DG)
WickedLittleGreenGirl821
Dec 13 2007, 08:35 PM
does anybody know if this will be available on iTunes or something like that?
ItsMeeee
Dec 13 2007, 09:30 PM
I cant stop listening to the GCR.... yes i know the orchestrations are the same but its so fresh and whats best is that Willemijn's voice isn't too tweaked/doctored which is what i don't really like about the OBCR
degeorgetitanic
Dec 13 2007, 10:06 PM
I dotn think the OBC is messed with. If it was they would of taken out or fixed that last note in the Finale. And also, my cousin works in a studio that records music and he said he couldtn find anything that would support that its messed with. Sorry just a pet peeve of mine..
nerual824
Dec 14 2007, 01:50 AM
anybody want to send me the songs??
bobert5353
Dec 14 2007, 01:58 AM
QUOTE(nerual824 @ Dec 13 2007, 08:50 PM)

anybody want to send me the songs??
http://www.amazon.de/Wicked-die-Hexen-Von-...8851&sr=8-9
staticoranges
Dec 14 2007, 05:35 AM
QUOTE(WickedLittleGreenGirl821 @ Dec 13 2007, 12:35 PM)

does anybody know if this will be available on iTunes or something like that?
It's only available on the German iTunes. You have to go to the bottom and switch the country to germany and you can buy it there.
PrairieC
Dec 14 2007, 05:59 AM
Just so everybody's on the same page...
don't ask for freebies in this thread, please. You have options. Patience and self-control should never be ruled out as an option, either.
For those who bought or are buying, please carry on. [

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ItsMeeee
Dec 14 2007, 10:30 PM
The OBC has been messed with its pretty obvious. . . all CD's are these days theres nothing terrible about it. ( although if i were them i would have changed the last note of TWAI because its eiether flat or sharp one of the two.... sorry it really annoys me).
As i said before i love the GCR...Willemijn 's voice is just beyond AMAZING
Wicked Witch of the West
Dec 15 2007, 12:21 AM
What is the fuss about with the OBC? While the GCR has identical orchestrations, the voices are totally different. Why is everyone freaking out about it?
smevil2213
Dec 15 2007, 06:54 PM
I agree with you completely Wicked Witch of the West. I don't get why people are freaking out over it. This recording was not intended for non-german fans of the show to compare. It was made for the german fans of the show to have it in their own language. And I personally think that the german fans don't care what the backings sound like. I think that this is just another case of some wicked fans being ungreatful. You have wanted an international recording for a while now and you got it so just enjoy it and be greatful. rant over
alittlepatience
Dec 16 2007, 11:50 PM
I think the GCR sounds awesome, personally, judging from the clips. Willemijn's voice is amazing.
I'm going to get it as soon as I find the money...so, buying works the same way on the German Amazon? Just follow the buttons?
Fritz
Dec 17 2007, 01:24 AM
QUOTE(staticoranges @ Dec 13 2007, 11:35 PM)

It's only available on the German iTunes. You have to go to the bottom and switch the country to germany and you can buy it there.
It told me that my account was only valid in the US...anyone else have this problem? Or know how to fix it?
Son of a Witch
Dec 18 2007, 11:01 AM
I love the German CR! It is fab and Willi's voice is to die for Espec the last note on NGD OMIGOD!!!!!
LittleGalinda
Dec 18 2007, 11:16 PM
This recording is excellent!
The Glinda is FABULOUS and I love Willemijn's voice. They're both to die for!
greenismyfavcolor
Dec 18 2007, 11:46 PM
Yeah you have to make another account, a German one.
I did not think using the same orchestration was a big deal (see my earlier posts) until I heard the OGCR. It just does not fit with the translation. There are more syllables in some places and less in others.
It was perfectly fine in some spots (the obvious being the Overture in NOMTW).
It's still not a "big" deal and yeah, people are crying over spilt milk. But I think it would have been better to do new recordings.
WickedLittleGreenGirl821
Dec 19 2007, 12:37 AM
QUOTE(staticoranges @ Dec 14 2007, 12:35 AM)

It's only available on the German iTunes. You have to go to the bottom and switch the country to germany and you can buy it there.
thank you soooooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: can gift cards bought in the US work in the german itunes store?
Version Two
Dec 21 2007, 05:19 AM
My copy arrived in the mail today...
Wow... Willemijn's Gutes Tun (No Good Deed) alone makes this recording worth the purchase. That track made my jaw drop, and my jaw doesn't drop for CDs. Amazing.
blueberry_jam
Dec 23 2007, 01:45 AM
I finally got my CD yesterday, and I love it. I didn't even notice that it was the same instrumental backing - honestly, it seems a bit silly to complain about, because the vocals are so gorgeous and we got the CD within a month of the premiere in Stuttgart! Japan has been there for a few months, and I doubt we'll ever get a London CD, soo... yeah. lol.
My favorite songs are "Ich bin es nicht/I'm not that girl" "Solang ich dich hab/as long as you're mine" and "Wie ich bin/for good." I'm glad I bought the CD and didn't just beg online for it, because the booklet is lovely -- although I've noticed a few times it gets the lyrics wrong. o.O; Which is weird and a bit annoying, especially if you're trying to translate it. I'm going to try to translate as many of the songs as I can, since I'm not in school right now and need to keep up my German so it doesn't get rusty.
All in all, it's definately worth the money. The CD disc itself is so gorgeous.
ShizKid
Dec 23 2007, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(WickedLittleGreenGirl821 @ Dec 18 2007, 09:37 PM)

thank you soooooooooo much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: can gift cards bought in the US work in the german itunes store?
How do you get to the German Itunes Store?
wickedmenzel318
Dec 26 2007, 04:07 AM
How does the german itunes work. It wont let me transfer over to it. I need help.
WickedLittleGreenGirl821
Dec 26 2007, 03:02 PM
i think you go all the way down to the bottom of the itunes page and change the store to germany, but you can't buy anything there if you have a balance on your account already (like a giftcard that still has stuff on it).
defying gravity in TX
Dec 28 2007, 12:27 AM
^^^ Here's what the Apple guys said about cross-store purchases:
Unless you can show some form of residency you cannot buy from another country's store. The question on cross store purchasing is asked frequently so I'll just quote the most complete answer (courtesy of Dave Sawyer) from the many given:
In order to buy from any given country's iTunes Music Store, you must have either:
a) a credit card with a billing address in that country, or
b. a mailing address in that country and a gift certificate or a prepaid card that was bought in that country.
If you cannot fulfill one of these two sets of conditions, you will not be able to purchase from any given country's iTMS.
.......this is due to restrictions placed on Apple by the record companies and other rights holders (who are often completely different from country to country and so all require their own individual negotiations and contracts), not by Apple's choice. And this also applies to all the legal download stores that carry major-label content, not just the iTMS.
Which pretty much sucks for all of us here in the U.S. that REALLY want the GCR.
DearOldShiz
Dec 28 2007, 04:28 AM
QUOTE(defying gravity in TX @ Dec 27 2007, 07:27 PM)

^^^ Here's what the Apple guys said about cross-store purchases:
Unless you can show some form of residency you cannot buy from another country's store. The question on cross store purchasing is asked frequently so I'll just quote the most complete answer (courtesy of Dave Sawyer) from the many given:
In order to buy from any given country's iTunes Music Store, you must have either:
a) a credit card with a billing address in that country, or
b. a mailing address in that country and a gift certificate or a prepaid card that was bought in that country.
If you cannot fulfill one of these two sets of conditions, you will not be able to purchase from any given country's iTMS.
.......this is due to restrictions placed on Apple by the record companies and other rights holders (who are often completely different from country to country and so all require their own individual negotiations and contracts), not by Apple's choice. And this also applies to all the legal download stores that carry major-label content, not just the iTMS.
Which pretty much sucks for all of us here in the U.S. that REALLY want the GCR.
I just bought it from Amazon.de. It was easy, it got here, and it's amazing! Worth the money, again, solely for Willemijn's final note in Gutes Tun.
greenismyfavcolor
Dec 29 2007, 03:14 AM
If anyone needs help finding a copy of the OGCR, I could help.
Edit: Have there been any interviews (in English) with Lucy and Willemijn? Not like I'd expect them to do many interviews in English......
And any news about the aforementioned OJCR?
staticoranges
May 29 2008, 11:17 PM
where is the cheapest place to get a hard copy of the cast recording? Amazon wants to charge me 70 bucks for it. I don't think so.
loyalfan
Dec 15 2008, 09:16 AM
QUOTE(greenismyfavcolor @ Dec 29 2007, 11:14 AM)

Edit: Have there been any interviews (in English) with Lucy and Willemijn? Not like I'd expect them to do many interviews in English......
And any news about the aforementioned OJCR?
Ditto. Sorry I really don't understand a word of German (though I'm beginning to learn.hehehe)
FixatedOnVerdigris
Dec 23 2008, 06:03 AM
I've yet to find interviews in English. German, duh

English SONGs, yes. But no English interviews
blueberry_jam
Dec 23 2008, 06:13 AM
QUOTE(staticoranges @ May 29 2008, 11:17 PM)

where is the cheapest place to get a hard copy of the cast recording? Amazon wants to charge me 70 bucks for it. I don't think so.
http://www.amazon.de/Wicked-Die-Hexen-Deut...2733&sr=8-1I think it's cheapest to get it from amazon.de (The German Amazon site.) I got mine from it and it was, I think, about $35. And most of that was in shipping, not for the actual CD itself, because I preordered and got it at a discount. Unfortunately shipping from Germany to the US (if that's where you are) is really expensive no matter what.
edit: lol I just noticed how old the post that I was replying to was... oops! Well, if anyone else was wondering (or still wondering) I would get it from them, if you're looking for a hard copy.
Thank Goodness!
Dec 25 2008, 03:54 PM
I'm listening to the cast recording right now, and WOW! Lucy and Willemijn are even more amazing than I thought.
xxitsrynxx0
Mar 13 2009, 01:59 AM
thought that i would let you guys know that defying gravity in german is up for free download on wicked germany's site. i got mine today=]
Ryn
sparklegem
Dec 24 2009, 02:07 AM
I just played the German and English version of Defying Gravity from the two cast recordings simultaneously, and it sounds amazing. I'm surprised how well they line up in tempo and how the bars match up if you start a little ways into the song.
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